Quality Family Life

There is a downside to practically everything.  So if a mother shops her kids off to daycare and does not realize this, she is just not facing reality.  I see them racing by me in the morning with their kids all bundled up in their child seats, and I say “I don’t want to go to work, I KNOW that they really don’t.”  It’s got to be pure hell parting with those kids every morning, especially to the conditions which you describe.  [I am sure there are notable exceptions, of course, but these do not disprove the general rule.]

And people who do not want to be parents such as you described in part of your post ought not to do so. People who do want to be parents ought to insist on changes in the community and society that will optimize the parenting.  The problem is not just that family who cannot afford what you might consider *Quality* childcare jobs is having to put their children in non-quality… (Is this also *cheap* daycare?)….gee whiz….the point is that DAYCARE is not a quality concept. We tell ourselves it is so we can justify that we are doing it.

For single parents…we have a difficult issue here…one that includes considering that it is cost effective to support mothers to be home and stop criticizing them as “on welfare”.  We do not live in an enlightened society…anyone who thinks we are ….needs to contact you off list!! (You are a psychiatrist and they need help with reality orientation) The real economic issue is that we are a consumer society and the only real purpose we have is to have consumers and we think we have to have everyone going home with a paycheck so they can go spend it on stuff they will throw away or didn’t need anyhow!!! I love to shop and spend money and buy stuff.  I love my children and grandchildren MORE.  Change the priority. Re-engineer the marketplace and send a parent home!!!

Working Mothers

What would help me as a working mom is fair treatment from politicians and the media.  I enjoy my life, and wouldn’t have it any other way, but it would be way cool not to have quite so many people thinking that I am doing something wrong and looking down their noses at me. (1) Quit it with the “it’s better if young children are home with one parent.”  Pfui.  Americans like the idea better, that’s all.  Show me some legitimate research that shows this (there isn’t any).  Really, both ways are fine.  Kids like daycare and thrive there.  Kids like to be at home and thrive there, too.

(2) Quit comparing childcare jobs with some impossible ideal of stay-at-home parenthood.  I represent women getting restraining orders, and I’ve seen plenty of stay at home parents who have had their parental rights terminated.  I’m *not* saying this is typical: it isn’t.  But neither is the perfect mom (the image *is* a mom, not a dad) who takes her children out for interesting educational field trips every day, never loses her temper, never sticks her kids in front of the TV so she can get something done, gives her children only educational toys and nutritional food. Compare daycare to the *average* stay at home parent, not what you’d like to believe she is like.

(3) Quit it with the “some women *have* to work.”  It is fine to work, even if you wouldn’t starve otherwise. (4) Bring some coherence to the treatment of poor women and middle class women. Poor women are supposed to “get off their butts and work”. Middle class women are supposed to quit their jobs and stay home, even if they’d much rather not. (5) Quit it with the working moms versus stay at home moms attitude. I know that U.S. likes to view everything as a big fight (preferably akin to pro wrestling), but this shouldn’t be a fight. We are all moms who love their kids, and we should be on the same side.

Paying for Daycare for Kids

You are the one having to pay $100 a week for approximately 2 1/2 hours of childcare a week. BUT, if looked at from the daycare provider’s POV, it’s a whole different kettle of fish. In a lot of areas, there is a limit as to how many children you can be responsible for at one time. The last time I used childcare, it was 6 children per adult. So, if there is one person there, they can only have 6 children at a time. That half hour of daycare after school is most likely actually taking up a whole slot for the entire day. So, from the daycare provider’s POV, you will have to pay for the entire slot for the entire day, even if you don’t use all of tho should have explained better what meant by “subsidized” before/afterschool care—you have to refer entire not-for-profit programs that benefit from subsidized supports and thus do not charge “market childcare jobs rates” (such as programs run by the schools themselves, which are great if the school offers them!). I’m intimately familiar with the need-based child care subsidy programs, but no longer qualify.

There is no before/afterschool care provided at my kids’ particular building. There may be programs at other schools in the (very large) district, but not here. And there are some schools that are served by park district programs, but again, not our particular neighborhood school. The only options for this particular school are a couple of private, for-profit centers that do pick up from the neighborhood school, or in-home providers. I could enroll them in a park district program that serves another neighborhood for about $150/month per child, but I’d have to provide transportation from the school to there.  se hours.

Reasonable Pay for Daycare

The reasonable pay for childcare jobs depends on your area — some parts of the east or west coast charge a lot for child care because the cost of living and salaries are significantly higher whereas places in the Deep South or mid-west may charge less because it’s not as expensive to live there and the salaries are generally lower. The adult-child ratio will also affect the average cost — a lower adult-child ratio means that more staff is required which translates to a higher cost for child care.  Also, if you’re looking for infant or toddler care (which you are if your child is 18 months old), the cost is usually higher than it would be for a preschooler.

The qualifications of the provider and the expectations for child care also contribute to the salary. If you want someone who knows CPR and first aid with a modicum of training in child development and activities, plus experience and maturity, with responsibilities such as preparing meals, field trips, art or other activities, you need to pay that person a decent wage — if you’re expecting that person to come to your home, you’ll also have social security and possible health benefits to consider. In any case, regardless of the area and regardless of home or center environment, IMHO, a qualified, competent, trained child care provider should START at $8-12 per hour — they probably should make even more than that because child care is such a valuable service, but American society doesn’t seem to think so.

Daycare Alternatives

All people who use daycare are ”dumping” their kids… I have no problem with it for older kids, and realize that in some places it’s safe for even the little ones.  I’m just frustrated that I can’t find any useful information from anyone I’ve met around here, and that anyone who isn’t berating me for not being a SAHM is ridiculing me for thinking that it matters who’s watching my baby. I actually had two mothers in the area tell me the other day that I “think too much”, “daycare is all the same, they rip you off for letting your kid play on their floor”, and “it really isn’t worth asking them about anything but price, you’ll see that when you aren’t such an overexcited new mom.”  I’m starting to feel as if I’m the only person in the world who takes a middle ground.  Anyhow, I was commenting on some of the people I’ve met here, not on childcare jobs-users worldwide.

What is the legal situation where you are? In the UKall child minders (home daycare) and nurseries have to be licensed. The majority have trained, qualified staff, with pediatric first aid certificates kept current. I am a child minder, and it does annoy me that people will (illegally) leave their baby with a neighbor rather than properly investigate childcare alternatives….. Anyway, if you use a child minder/home daycare then you do have a strong say in what goes on. Usually, there will only be a handful of children (UK rules are up to six children, including the child minder’s own) and you will get to know them all. Good child minders have open door policies, so you are welcome anytime to pop in and visit, and consult parents about everything – the parent is the primary career, not the minder.

How to Make a Private Daycare More Cooperative

Sounds like you are becoming unhappy and distrustful of the day care staff, or at least with some of the staff and/or management of the staff.  Just based on that info you probably want to look into a new daycare situation. I know it is hard to do things like that. If you have other ‘commercial’ day care centers in your area might want to look into them.  Also if you have not ruled out home daycare I encourage you to look into it as well.   Lastly – don’t rule out ‘church’ based childcare jobs programs simply because you are not of that faith.

You could do a listserv on what is probably essentially a case of old fashioned office politics in a big setting (which would be about as effective as them setting up a listserv about the office politics where you work), or you can find a place in which such silly goings on is unlikely. I would suggest looking into home daycare, where there is one provider (or possibly more, with another adult or two in her employ) in business for herself, little or no turnover, and a small and more flexible setting.

Stay at Home Mom jobs

If one thinks doing home daycare would be good for her then that might be an option. You can make quite a bit of money while being able to stay home with your children.  And since, her kids would be playing with the other kids; her job wouldn’t take her away from being with her own children. For me, this has been the ideal job.  Who knows, when my children are in school full time, I may return to work outside of the home, but for now, we are quite happy with this arrangement and it may work for your friend also. Presently, I have 4 full time daycare children. Potential $100.00 per day!! ($500.00) a week!!  I couldn’t make that working out of the home and having pay $1000.00 per month for my two children to be in daycare. Mention it to her.  You do have to be cut out for this type of work, though.  It isn’t for everyone.

Is there anyone who enjoys these things and doesn’t think they are a social blight?  I know I feel used and abused when people put pressure on me to attend this crap — and of course the companies involved are counting on the guilt factor to foist junk on friends.  Might as well go all the way and just try selling all your friends whole life insurance.

Different Aspects of Preschools

The parents determine the quality of the school. All of our teachers have degrees in early childhood education; most of them has a master.  We have ratio of 4:1 in the toddler room (age 18 mo to 3) and 6:1 in the preschool room (age 3-5).  Other than the professional teachers, we get interns who are in early childhood education majors in colleges. So the ratio is actually somewhere liked 3:1 and 4:1. We pay our teachers very well. During the 3 years we have been with the school, only 2 teachers left in the whole school.  One left to go to medical school, the other left to be a better paying kindergarten teacher in a public school.  Each class gets new toys on the on going basis. Every few weeks, the parents are organized to fix any broken or need to be painted or need to be replaced things in the classrooms.   It is a very tide circle among the families involved in the school.  We often spend the weekend with one or more families from the school.

The tuition is higher than the average in this area, but I think its money well spent.  The childcare jobs in the school are very time consuming. Often I feel that I have 3 jobs - my money making day job, the job in the coop school, and being a Mom.  We have preschool classes for children ages 3-5 (or pre-K), and a toddler transitional class for children aged 2-3.  The preschool classes last for 3 hours, while the toddler class runs for 2.5 hours.

The Importance of Preschool

Preschool is not academically necessary, any more than traditional school is necessary. However, like any other homeschooling parent a parent who chooses not to do the traditional preschool or childcare jobs should be sure that their kids have social interaction with other kids, time spent listening to books, and lots of learning experiences-in fact, all kids need these no matter what type of preschool they have.

Having said this, some public schools and many private schools look on preschool as a beneficial thing to have on school entrance, because of the social and behavioral aspects. If this is the case in your area, it’s a good idea for your child to have some pre-k experience, so he/she won’t be viewed as “less able” than the students who have it, regardless of actual skills.

The learning philosophy is important. There are four basic kinds of preschool philosophies: Montessori, Waldorf, academic, and playful learning. There was always some free play time, with various centers (blocks, play kitchen, book corner) available for each child to choose. Then there were age-appropriate toys, stories, craft projects, and activities for the whole class. These always had a learning component, but there was never any “school work” that was identifiable as such.  There was outside time with a jungle gym and swings, except in very inclement weather

Nanny Compensation

Childcare jobs shouldn’t have to “haggle” for a salary she is MORE than worth. You have the money; She needs it, stop being so damn stingy.  If you can’t stay home and take care of your child yourself, and you’ve found someone who CAN and Does – Well, I assume – then you should compensate her accordingly. Yes, women who get into this line of work do so because they love children, or they’re good at being a nanny, they bring all kinds of good things to the table, etc…  But they ALSO need the $$$$!  They are not just doing this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Do you give your nannies any additional benefits?  Are they on your health insurance?  Do you give them paid sick days and holidays?  Do they get a nice Christmas bonus?  Do they get at Least 2 weeks paid vacation?  If the answer is yes to ALL of these, then I’d say a Minimum of a 25% increase is warranted.. if you don’t give your girl ALL of these, it’s time to pay up, and stop valuing your checkbook more than you value the caretaker of your child.

To the Last poster – I find it Ridiculous you would call up this girl’s empl over from TWO YEARS ago to ask what they did!!!!   Not only is that completely unfair, because it Is two years ago, but this girl hired on to work for You, NOT them.  She assumes she can trust your judgment, and that you’ll be fair and kind to her.  Who knows why she left that job, but let’s assume she did so because there was something about her treatment there, or the situation, that she no longer found desirable.  And you’re planning to call Those People for their opinion on how YOU should handle her? I would quit on you in an Instant if I knew you did that. That reference list is to check her qualifications when you Hire her. Not for “Help” when you’re too clueless to handle your Own situation in a grownup fashion.  I’d be Shocked if that family even gave you an Iota of advice – Your situation and this Girl are Not their problem anymore.  What is this ‘rich people brigade’ joining forces to make sure the nanny girl doesn’t take advantage of them??