Day Care Centers in Libraries

I remember mentioning on the list a few weeks ago that there needs to be daycare available EVERYWHERE that women go.  I believe childcare jobs should be performed by trained, qualified personnel.  Women are no longer at home all day long being SOLELY professional wives and mothers the way they were in the 19th century….therefore, there will need to be safe, affordable daycare EVERYWHERE that women need to go.  I say this because the idea of having day care centers attached to libraries, or to the schools with which they are affiliated, is appealing, but there are still questions of staffing, space, and cost which don’t go away just because we say it’s the responsibility of ”the management of the places where women go.”

 Someone does have to pay for these services, regardless of whether you’re talking about a not-for-profit entity or a private business. In the case of the former, it’s the tax-payers, usually, and therefore less obvious and painful, except when the tax bill comes.  In the case of the latter, it’s the consumers–including the childless and those who actually can handle their kids, maybe even preferring to have them along rather than in professional day care while they are shopping, who pay. We select the place we do our shopping largely on the basis of price and a place that offered such superfluous day care services would not likely be competitive.

The word “affordable” is a key.  What is affordable when you’re living at the limits of your budget anyway?  Unless it’s subsidized, there’s no way this day care service is going to be provided by professionals.  Drop-in day care is virtually impossible to make into a self-supporting enterprise. I’m puzzled at the idea that children would somehow be better served by spending the whole day going in and out of various professionally-run day care centers than spending time with their parents.  Have we really reached the point where our children are so unmanageable that we cannot handle them while shopping in a supermarket, standing in a waiting line at a post office or utility company, etc., so we need to have other people paid to do that for is.  If so, the fault lies not in the children or in society, but in ourselves, folks.

Solutions for Bad Daycares

Let’s say, for sake of argument that the government decides to give a tax break to families like yours.  (Or are you simply arguing that the tax break for families like MINE should be eliminated? I think they call those sour grapes.) How would such a break be determined.  How much money would you get to save? After all, if I get a really cheap daycare, I would get to save less than someone who has to pay more. And how would Uncle Sam determine if mom is staying home with the kids because they can truly afford to do so because dad makes a good wage, or if they are struggling to pay the bills but feel it is very important for mom (or dad) to be home all day. Or, for that matter, if both parents are indeed employed full time and so making lots of money, but they happen to have been able to take advantage of a free child care provider. (After all, hardly seems right that YOU should get a $500 tax break while paying nothing at all but making two incomes while I get a $500 tax break for paying $2500 a year for child care.)

You have also avoided one other point that I have had in earlier posts. The government allows us to deduct many expenses that are necessary for work.  I am partially self employed as a writer.  The government allows me to deduct the costs of postage stamps that I use to send out my work, and of professional books and journals.  If I wanted to keep track of it, I could even deduct the mileage for every trip to the post office and the electricity and ink I use to run my computer and print things out. They RECOGNIZE that these expenses are necessary for my work; therefore I do not have to pay taxes on that money.  Now I COULD decide to have a job that has no overhead.  Poor me …. I couldn’t deduct ANYTHING on my Schedule C.  Or I could rent a private office for $500 a month and stick my computer in it.  Then I could deduct $6000 a year! But since I don’t make anywhere near that amount off my writing that would be a bit silly. (But, as long as I make a profit at least 3 years out of 5 (meaning I would only be able to deduct a portion of that rent), the government wouldn’t care. They would accept that I need an office to do my job. It is a necessary expense.

Paying for Daycare for Kids

You are the one having to pay $100 a week for approximately 2 1/2 hours of childcare a week. BUT, if looked at from the daycare provider’s POV, it’s a whole different kettle of fish. In a lot of areas, there is a limit as to how many children you can be responsible for at one time. The last time I used childcare, it was 6 children per adult. So, if there is one person there, they can only have 6 children at a time. That half hour of daycare after school is most likely actually taking up a whole slot for the entire day. So, from the daycare provider’s POV, you will have to pay for the entire slot for the entire day, even if you don’t use all of tho should have explained better what meant by “subsidized” before/afterschool care—you have to refer entire not-for-profit programs that benefit from subsidized supports and thus do not charge “market childcare jobs rates” (such as programs run by the schools themselves, which are great if the school offers them!). I’m intimately familiar with the need-based child care subsidy programs, but no longer qualify.

There is no before/afterschool care provided at my kids’ particular building. There may be programs at other schools in the (very large) district, but not here. And there are some schools that are served by park district programs, but again, not our particular neighborhood school. The only options for this particular school are a couple of private, for-profit centers that do pick up from the neighborhood school, or in-home providers. I could enroll them in a park district program that serves another neighborhood for about $150/month per child, but I’d have to provide transportation from the school to there.  se hours.

Taking Advantage of Daycare

Some parents are taking advantage of their daycare providers. Numerous parents go through the same cycles. They bring their children to childcare job centers and the first few weeks they have a very difficult time leaving their children, there are tears from both the children and parents. But after getting adjusted the advantage taking begins. Parents start picking up later and later, and dropping off earlier and earlier. They stop feeding their children breakfast in the morning, expectation us to do it. They start showing up without phone calls five to thirty minutes after closing time, with no apologies. Many parents try to fool us and pretend they don’t get off work until five thirty or six o’clock when we know they get off work at three- thirty, why aren’t they spending that valuable time with their children!

Another way of taking advantage is by ignoring the illness guidelines. By law sick children are not allowed to attend daycare. If a child is vomiting or has diarrhea they must be kept home for at least twenty four hours after the symptoms have stopped.  Many parents don’t want to miss work so they lie about their children being sick.

Many times a child will get sick at daycare, and daycare providers will call the parents and say their child has a fever of 102, and has been crying and throwing up since you dropped him off, and the most common response is for the parents to get angry at us for calling them at work and expecting them to come pick their child up!  Day after day I see parents dropping off their children sick. The children don’t want to come they want to be with  their parents when they aren’t well, but the parents still drop them off and say It’s only allergies, or their breakfast didn’t agree with them.

Daycare Vs. Working at Home

Transcribing is not as easy a solution as I thought it would be. The childcare jobs must be turned over in 24 hours. I would have to work all night to get them done. And if I work while Emma is asleep I chance waking her up (we currently live in a one room house).  It’s hard to work during naptime since Emma wakes up whenever I work the transcriber.  Since we’ve been living off of my savings all this time we’ve gotten a little rhythm going that’s been great for us on all possible levels except, obviously, financially.  I’m having a hard time being a stay-at-home mom under my current circumstances and am feeling too pathetic to continue living in such poverty.

I guess I feel guilty putting her daycare and feel like I should do what it takes to stay home with her, no matter how bad things get.  Then I think - well, what would be better for her? I’m leaning more towards the whole daycare thing and I was wondering if anyone who has already put their babies in daycare could say something to ease my worrying, like “oh, it’s fine. They adjust perfectly!”  I worry because I can just see her crying and trying to communicate what it is she needs and a daycare provider not knowing and therefore suffering on both ends. I know it will only be a short adjustment period and then things will settle.  I guess I just needed to write this to sort it all out in my head.

Home Daycare

I live in London Ontarioand own and operate my own private home-based daycare. It is called Little Hands. I have a Business license simply for there name but I am not a licensed daycare facility. Like Leslie and some of the others had mentioned, you can have up to 5 children in your home and not have to be licensed. IN a licensed home daycare you can only have up to 5 children as well including your own, so if you have 1 child he/she needs to be included in your ratio of kids.  Having past 5 children could get you in some deep water as this is actually considered illegal and plus your insurance company will not insure you past the 5 children limit.

If anything were to ever happen to a child who isn’t insured the parents would probably sue you left and right! My insurance company will only insure me for up to a maximum of 3 children and if and when I get past that # of children in my care, they told me to look elsewhere for insurance both for my daycare and house. I have not had past 3 children yet and I have been in operation since Sept/01. I advertised my daycare on bulletin boards in grocery stores, etc and in our local newspaper. In all honesty, I did not have much success finding children ( I got one child through the newspaper ads which I had been advertising for over 2 months to the tune of $82/month! I had also signed up with a local childcare network called London Caregivers Referral Network and that was about $32/month and I didn’t find even one child through those means! Needless to say, it has not been easy for me finding children to take into my daycare and competition here in London is fierce!

Daycare Dilemma

I’m in somewhat the dilemma.  My son is 2 1/2yo, and I’ve been fortunate enough to be able to keep him home with me since he was seven months old.  I recently tried putting him in daycare part-time, for the social experience, but also to give me a chance to do some of my work-at-home during the day.  However, he has had one illness after another since he started, and after going through rosella followed directly by pneumonia, I decided that this was not a great idea right now.

However, we are moving this summer, and I will have to find a job after we move, meaning that I will also have to find daycare for Michael, if not for Kate (who will be in first grade, but who has been in some form of daycare since she was a year old).  We had a private sitter for Michael when he was an infant, since I don’t feel comfortable about putting an infant in group daycares, but my husband and I both had well-paying childcare jobs then, and we felt the expense was worth it.  I doubt I can find a job that pays that well this time around, so I’m thinking about trying a smaller homecare situation, where there are a lot fewer kids to transmit diseases to each other.

Different Aspects of Preschools

The parents determine the quality of the school. All of our teachers have degrees in early childhood education; most of them has a master.  We have ratio of 4:1 in the toddler room (age 18 mo to 3) and 6:1 in the preschool room (age 3-5).  Other than the professional teachers, we get interns who are in early childhood education majors in colleges. So the ratio is actually somewhere liked 3:1 and 4:1. We pay our teachers very well. During the 3 years we have been with the school, only 2 teachers left in the whole school.  One left to go to medical school, the other left to be a better paying kindergarten teacher in a public school.  Each class gets new toys on the on going basis. Every few weeks, the parents are organized to fix any broken or need to be painted or need to be replaced things in the classrooms.   It is a very tide circle among the families involved in the school.  We often spend the weekend with one or more families from the school.

The tuition is higher than the average in this area, but I think its money well spent.  The childcare jobs in the school are very time consuming. Often I feel that I have 3 jobs - my money making day job, the job in the coop school, and being a Mom.  We have preschool classes for children ages 3-5 (or pre-K), and a toddler transitional class for children aged 2-3.  The preschool classes last for 3 hours, while the toddler class runs for 2.5 hours.

Should Government Pay for Preschool?

Since the investment in good child care pays big dividends in reduced costs for prisons and greater income to municipalities, school boards, states and the federal government.  All levels should contribute to the cost; it is  in everyone’s best interest, Guillermo. At the same time, I fear relying too much on government for social services. Through our own negligence–or worse–we have allowed the government(s) to replace charity with welfare, and I’m not convinced that government is doing a very good job of it.  In fact, quite the contrary: government services are much more effective at buying the votes of recipients, government employees, and kind-hearted people than they are at actually helping the needy. But the principle of subsidiary–that large, impersonal organizations should not do the childcare jobs that smaller, more human agencies can do better–carries a lot of weight.

We can’t depend on the private sector either.  Look what happened in the Great Depression. But although we can’t depend on them, we CAN encourage & support private sector efforts, and where they surpass government efforts, release responsibility to them. Government is usually better at volume and equity issues and the private sector better at dealing with issues of sensitivity to individual need and circumstance. I’d be interested in evidence for and against that speculation.

The Factors that Affect the Salary of Nanny

What you pay your nanny, why she likes working for you, or anything, but let me tell you, nannies long to be APPRECIATED. The First and most important way to do this is with your Checkbook. The Second way is to give her Lots of praise, good feedback, and little tokens of appreciation.  She is caring for your BABY, your Child, and Your Investment. She has its life in her Very hands every day. Treat her accordingly. And stop pinching those damned pennies.

I keep doing this line of work because I’m damned good at it.  I relate well to children, I understand how they feel, being taken care of when their parents are unable or too busy to take care of them themselves - I was raised by a single parent and spent a Great deal of time in the homes of my babysitters.  Being a nanny… being able to care for children in their home, making them feel as loved and secure and stable as possible, in an honor.  Most of you are good parents, working hard to provide a certain lifestyle for yourselves and your children…and need some extra help.  Some of you just can’t be bothered with certain aspects of child rearing, and leave it to some young girl to fill in all the spaces where you can’t be present.  She is not just doing a Job for you; she is providing SUCH an invaluable service, nurturing your child, keeping it happy and loved

Finally – to the Original poster – if you’re still here – I’d suggest calling a nanny agency near you, and ask what the going rate is for your area of the country, explaining what duties you ascribe to your nanny, what benefits you presently give her, and have them give you an idea.  If you Truly like value and appreciate this lady, you will give her at Least a bit beyond what the agency tells you, since she Has been there 2 years already, and assuming you Want HER to stay loyal to you. There are MANY childcare jobs out there for her to choose from… make her Want to stay with you.